A large number of cloned beef will be listed next year?
Where can I find a million cows? Can the cost of bulk cloned cattle be solved? Myth or science? "Cloning Factory" Chairman Xu Xiaoyu responds to questions related to cloning beef The first phase of the "Cloning Factory" project of Incopharma Genetics (Tianjin) Co., Ltd. will achieve an annual output of 100,000 cattle embryos, which is expected to account for 5/1000 cattle slaughter in the country. After the second phase of the project is put into production, this figure will be expanded to 1 million. In the middle of this year, the “World's Largest Cloning Factory†will start operations. Under the premise of adequate conditions and preparations, the first batch of cloned cattle raised by the “Clone Factory†will be able to develop within two years at the earliest. Slaughter. Some cloning experts pointed out that from the perspective of low survival rate, conversion rate and production cost, there are still many practical problems in quantifying plans for producing cloned cattle. In addition to questioning its technical aspects, food safety and supervision have also become one of the reasons people criticize "clone factories." The reporter interviewed Xu Xiaoyu, chairman and CEO of the "Global Largest Cloning Factory" project. He said that questions and doubts about cloning technology stem from the fact that animal cloning technology has actually developed for nearly 20 years and its maturity has reached the point of entry into commerce. The "best period" of application. In addition, in response to the expert's doubts about the technology, he said that he was willing to hear the voice that “this matter is impossible to do.†He told reporters that if it is something that everyone can do, they will not do it. "An industry does not have 'barriers' and we do not do it." Text/graph Guangzhou Daily reporter Zhang Dan (except signing) "Don't think that what Boliage does can be duplicated in an ordinary laboratory. This is the industry's 'barriers' and is the company's core competitiveness." President, CEO of Peking University Boya Holding Group, and Molecular Medicine at Peking University Institute professor Xu Xiaoyun said. The largest clone plant operates in the middle of the year Guangzhou Daily reporter: It is understood that in the first half of this year, the "world's largest clone factory" will operate. What is the progress of the current "factory" construction? Is it able to operate as scheduled? Xiaoxi Xu: As we announced before, it will start its operations in the middle of this year, so everything is still in progress as planned. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Now what is the "factory" construction? Xiaoyan Xu: The entire building of our “factory†has now been completed. To the laboratory, we still need to make some changes. The entire project did not start until recently. From September 2014, the project began. Everyone should not take too much time because it is a continuous work. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Did you mean that although this project was announced last year, it was already in preparation for a long time ago? Xiaoxiao Xu: Yes. In fact, stem cell technology and cloning technology are actually sister technologies. When our company was founded in 2009, the father of cloned sheep came to Wuxi many times. In broad terms, since 2009, our company has entered the field of cloning technology. Guangzhou Daily reporter: When did the project of Tianjin's "World's Largest Cloning Factory" begin? Xu Xiaoyu: According to our specific implementation project, in fact, our liberal arts clone dog project is located in Weihai. In 2014, the first batch of cloned dogs was born in Weihai. In the future, we will use Weihai as the base for more top search dog rescue clones. The Tianjin project is a base for cloning cattle embryos. According to the characteristics of our different industries, we will choose different locations. Is it necessary to establish a clone company? Guangzhou Daily Reporter: In China, what are the necessary formalities and approvals for establishing a clone company? What is popularly said, what kind of "certificates" need to be done? Xiaoyan Xu: I in turn asked whether you would like to go to a national ministry to apply for human rights protection and personal information privacy protection when inventing a computer. Do you need to apply for an electronic "license"? Does it need to apply for a bank "license"? Guangzhou Daily reporter: At that time, the computer has not yet reached this stage. Xu Xiaoyun: So, it is not. After a new technology emerges, you do not know where its application level is. Therefore, it is difficult to say that what we imagine is that a new technology comes out as if it should be, but in fact it only considers applying for a bank “license†when it develops until it needs to lift the “license†of the bank. It involves the registration of personal information, will consider applying for a "license" in the registration of personal information. Therefore, it is difficult to say that when a new technology is just emerging, it should apply. Of course, our "clone factory" must have higher breeding standards than its normative and animal protection and breeding standards compared to ordinary farms in China, but this is not mandatory. On the contrary, this shows that a company affects the industry through higher standards. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Some people think that when Boya announced the establishment of a "cloning factory" last year, the factory had already built 80%. At this time, the public was completely unaware of the fact that the public actually enjoyed the right to know about it. Xu Xiaoyu: I think it's because everyone saw the "cloning factory" would say so. This is a new cell technology. Whether BGI is to disclose its cell technology to the public? Someone may have overinterpreted the cloning of these two words. Business operations are operated in a very regulated business environment. For a regulated company, in the case of Boya, there are two listed companies in Boya, not only a very regulated company, but also a very conservative company. Therefore, if there is The obligation to disclose to the public, Boya will certainly disclose to the public in advance. However, this is an enterprise's investment. First, it does not involve the country’s money, nor does it involve the government’s money. This is the free development of enterprises’ use of free funds. The public should be very proud that China has such a business. Mass production of cloned cattle can really achieve? Guangzhou Daily reporter: China’s traditional agricultural and animal husbandry departments are “cool†to the “world's largest clone factory†and there is even a lot of skepticism. What do you think of these “voicesâ€? Xu Xiaoyun: We are very plain feelings to see this reaction. We ourselves did not want a sensational effect, and we have played a very good leading role in the life sciences field. We are also the only Chinese FDA third-phase clinical certification company in China. In spite of this, I still think that Boya does not need the “appreciation†of the public. We just do things well and promote the development of the industry. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Domestic and foreign experts pointed out that from the perspective of low survival rate, conversion rate and production cost, there are still many practical problems in quantifying the production of cloned cattle. I would like to ask if liberal arts has considered such problems. How will the plan be solved? Xiaoyan Xu: We are very happy to hear people say "This matter can not be done" voice. We are very willing to hear and say, "This is a challenge." In the liberal arts concept, if it is something that everyone can do, we will not do it. If an industry does not have "barriers," we do not. There are so many clone experts in the country that helped me clone the dog. Since they think this is so easy, there are no technical barriers and they are easily repeated, then they cloned the dog. However, we can bring you a dog and give you exactly the same "copy dog" for 70 days. Domestic and even global clone experts, can you have this assurance? However, I dare say that you led Boya to come and if we do not clone it in 70 days, we can compensate you for the price of the three dogs. Can other people do it? Do not do it. They would say that due to the low survival rate of clones, it is impossible to make this matter. Why does Boyaa make it? Can cows be surrogate? Guangzhou Daily reporter: Can you explain or give specific examples of the cost of cloning cattle? What is the time and cost of a cloned cow from the embryo to survive, when it enters the market after being converted into a cow? Xiaoyan Xu: The physiology of cloned cattle is exactly the same as that of natural cows. Different cows have different maturation periods. The maturity of the top Angus cattle in the United States takes 18 months, while the maturity of the top Japanese beef cattle is 30 months. In order to achieve the corresponding quality, different cattle slaughter time is also different. Guangzhou Daily reporter: What is the comparison between the cost of the two animals and the traditional livestock husbandry? Xu Xiaoyu: It should be said that the two will not differ too much. Because cloning solves the problem of supply, instead of cloning it, it becomes extremely cheap. Cloning does not increase the cost, because if you increase costs, you will not be competitive. At the same time, it will not make good beef cheaper. It solves the problem that if you spend the same amount of money in the past, you can't buy it, you can buy it, and it can be fake or inferior. Now you can buy good quality. It's like the strawberry we used to eat. It costs tens of dollars. The strawberries we buy are big and small, sweet and light, and dirty. Now we spend the same money and buy the quality of strawberries. It is more standardized. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Some netizens suggested that the very direct question is that 10 cloned cattle embryos each year will require 100,000 cows for maternal inoculation. Where will these cows come from? Where did the last 1 million cows find themselves? Xu Xiaotong: China now has about 100 million cattle feeds. Cloning technology It does not require the same breed of cow to produce it. It can be used for surrogacy. Cows can be used as surrogates for beef cattle. Compared with the overall feeding volume in China, even if it is 1 million, it is a very small part. In fact, tens of millions of cows can be surrogate cows. Is it safe to eat cloned beef? Guangzhou Daily Reporter: It is reported that the lack of food safety and supervision is full of doubts about the “clone factoryâ€. How do you view food safety issues and whether there is a lack of regulation? Xu Xiaoyun: We should learn more about this matter. Because ignorant people are fearless, questions that people sometimes raise are inherently valuable, but those who wish to ask questions should learn more. Since 1999, the United States has been monitoring the safety of cloned cattle for 15 years. In 2006, it released the first edition on the safety and risk analysis of cloned cattle. These are all publicly available, and can be downloaded and read on the US FDA website. A total of about 950 pages are available. The conclusions drawn are very simple. The cloned cow is the same as the natural cow regardless of its physiology or lifespan. Products produced by cloned cows, whether milk or beef, are exactly the same as natural cows. In fact, you can't tell whether it's a cloned cow or a natural cow. Therefore, in the United States, products produced by cloned offspring are completely allowed to be marketed and do not require any labeling. If you have doubts about Chinese cloned cattle, you can go directly to the US FDA website. In other countries, such as Japan, South Korea, and the United Kingdom, the relevant food commissions have conducted similar surveys and reached the same conclusion as the United States. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Some experts believe that the safety of cloned animals will be recognized as a very long process. How do you view this view? Xu Xiaoyun: Is it not long in 15 years? Frankly speaking, I think our experts should have a more international perspective and understand the development of this industry, not just in China but in global development. I hope that when experts raise this issue, they should first read the safety and risk analysis of cloned animals on the US FDA website. Based on this, they can discuss where there is still room for further improvement. Of course, safety approval should be a long-term process. Is that 15 years a long-term one? Which is the long-term point? Our new drug development is usually only observed for two years. Does cloning affect traditional livestock husbandry? Guangzhou Daily reporter: What are the future prospects of the "Clone Factory"? Are you the "first to eat crabs"? Xiaohui Xu: We are not the first to eat crabs. We are not the first company in the world to engage in cloning. However, we are probably the first company that has advanced the cloning technology to commercial applications. Prior to us, there were some cloned companies that, because of their early intervention and untimely events, easily became “martyrsâ€. We should be pushing the right industry at a suitable time. The success of an industry has three elements: First, the maturity of the technology. Second, the vast market demand. Third, there must be sufficient capital to promote. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Prior to the commercialization of cloned cattle, there were reports from the media that cloned pigs also tried to industrialize, but then there was no news. I do not know the specificity of cloning technology, the need for this "silence", or the cloning technology in the process of commercialization encountered problems? Xiaoyan Xu: I think it is more likely that the latter's analysis is based on an analysis. Because it takes about 15 to 20 years for any industry to start and enter commercial operations. Taking photovoltaics as an example, photovoltaic power generation was first successfully tested in Bell Laboratories in 1954, and it was actually made into a photovoltaic cell. It was during the period from the late 1970s to the early 1980s, and it took almost 20 years. time. Plant cloning has been successful since the 1960s and it has been commercialized for almost 20 years. Therefore, animal cloning technology was created from 1996 until it entered commercialization. It took 20 years for this to be a normal thing. Have you eaten cloned beef? Guangzhou Daily reporter: Are you eating cloned beef? Xiaoxiao Xu: Eaten, it's delicious. I said that this cloned cattle project started in China is not the first one. There are cloned cattle projects in the United States and South Korea for rapid establishment of excellent populations. Everyone still demonizes cloning technology. We also read the commentary on "Chinese cloned cow factory" in Google of the United States. Their comments are lamenting the development of Chinese technology. Why is there not so many negative effects in the United States? Knowledge is very important. The modern society also needs to constantly understand that many of our doubts and doubts about cloning are due to our lack of understanding of it. Guangzhou Daily reporter: In other words, people currently have a cognitive bias for “cloneâ€? Xiaoyan Xu: Yes, this is the case. Why don't people think that computers are demonized? Because everyone has used and learned. But why are there so many ideas for cloning? In fact, there is not so much understanding of the technology itself. When we go to the supermarket to choose strawberries, we will certainly not go for the idea of ​​choosing a strawberry that has never been cloned because everyone is in constant contact and there is no sense of strangeness. In terms of cloning cattle, the earliest entry into commerce was the use of cloning technology in the United States to replicate the top high-end cattle, and the descendants entered the food chain. This is not the process that happens today. Technology is constantly maturing. Guangzhou Daily reporter: Are you a scientist or a business owner? How to position yourself? Xu Xiaoyu: I think that the managers of high-tech companies need to be highly sensitive in technological development and have business acumen. Such as Google, Microsoft's boss, they are absolute experts in IT, software, the two are not in themselves contradictory. In the past, in the process of reform and development, the original industry was only a low-end industry and did not require much professional skills. As long as it dared to do it, anyone could be the boss. Now that the society has developed, more and more innovative and technological companies are present, the requirements for the CEO will be different from the original. I think that being able to bring technology to market is a very encouraging process.
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